Noogle, can't help you with that info but can assure you the prize money will be paid sometime. In the worst case scenario there is a good cash flow coming in from $1 membership fees and the tournament prize fund should be first in line to get paid. If there is a problem the state officers should be informing you and others and you should keep pesturing them to let the cashers know if there is a problem beyond checking averages which the tournament has a long history of taking a long time taken to deal with appeals on disqualifications.
Don Gates
Don you should explain to him how valuable the USBC membership is and how stolen money is replaced because it is bonded.
skullpants, money in mandated local/state annual tournaments is bonded and if all required procedures are followed covered 100% but if not it drops to 50% which is a worst case scenario that I doubt the state association would allow the entrants to 'eat'. I hope there is no money at all missing from state tournament funds just the usual delays cause by the need for disqualifications and appeals.
Let's hope that the guy who took the money was not one of those who should have been following the required procedures.
prunenow:For better than two years the Robert Mushtare situation was kept alive by men and women who knew little about what they were posting about, slandering Robert, his family, employees at the bowling center, USBC employees involved in the inspections, bowlers at the center, witnesses to some of the bowling, conjecturing on how he might have cheated, etal while knowing very little for a fact and really having no business to be advised of the facts.
Dear Don:
"Slander" is a rather strong legal term, and you should refrain from bandying it about.
Are you making a direct accusation that certain posters -- among others -- WERE GUILTY of "slandering" Robert Mushtare and members of his family, USBC and other bowling officials?
Further, keep in mind that slander refers ONLY to ORAL statements. LIBEL refers to WRITTEN statements. Therefore, your comment about "slanderous" posts was incorrect, in a legal sense.
And still further, your stated allegations of slander HAVE NO BEARING IN FACT, unless certain posters and/or others whom you accuse of "slander" have actually BEEN FOUND GUILTY of doing so.
It's easy for you to bandy about terms such as "slander," but it is not proper OR FACTUAL for you to do so UNLESS you can PROVE the truthfulness and/or legality of your accusations.
prunenow:Paul, while I don't know all that much, I will recognize shots taken at Donahue as legit with real bullets or blanks with no validity o guessing passed on as facts While I cannot stop legit shots that I don't think belong on Bowl.com, I will holler 'foul' when I recognize them to be so much hooey.
Would you please translate into understandable English?
What do you mean by saying, and I quote, "I will recognize shots taken at Donahue as legit with real bullets or blanks with no validity o guessing passed on as facts."?
We were informed that there were over 20 disqualifications in the NYS tourney due to averages and membership problems.The checks were supposed to be sent out end August or early September. This info was in an email about a month ago, so give it a few more weeks before becoming concerned.
What a mess in New York State.....Now they don't even have a charter for the association!!!!!!
I guess this means the GOOD OLE BOYS CLUB is officially dead!!!!
It will be interesting to see how USBC responds, below is information from the USBC regarding these types of issues. My guess is that it will be a while defore bowlers receive their money.
If in fact this occurred over the period of time indicated, one would have to assume there was no audit and the association must take responsibilty for their actions, or lack of.
An audit is an examination of an association’s financial documents to determine whether the records and reports are valid and the information is fairly represented.
The purpose of an audit is to review management policies and procedures, analyze the flow of transactions and their related internal controls and to work with management in suggesting and implementing solutions when needed.
Ensuring an association audit is completed is the responsibility of the entire board. It can be done internally by the audit committee or the association can have an outside source (CPA, auditing firm) complete it.
For bonding purposes, USBC requires the association, at the minimum, to complete an audit annually. Additional audits may be required if the association merges or hires a new association manager.
For bonding requirements, there must be two signatures for all withdrawals. The association board has the authority to authorize legitimate expenses to be paid via electronic means.
Using a personal (or spouse’s) credit card to purchase association related materials is not illegal. An association can use a personal credit card to purchase association related materials as at times it may be necessary to use a credit card to purchase items. However, please be advised to use receipts as verification for purchases, thereby allowing individuals to be reimbursed by the association.
The president and/or association manager may hold a credit card in the name of the association but only with board approval. If it is approved, the president must verify the transactions monthly. This practice is not recommended in that there are not two signatures on the transactions and if the credit card is misused, it may not be covered by bonding insurance.
Full financial disclosure must be provided, in writing, to the membership annually. A copy can be requested by any member at anytime and must be disclosed. Information should include the audit report, a copy of the budget, balance sheets and income statements.
